tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8455468843833525066.post4341970059577343778..comments2023-08-17T10:18:24.628-04:00Comments on Multilitteratus Incognitus: You've been punk'd! However, that was an educational experienceApostolos K. ("AK")http://www.blogger.com/profile/02198465120131968928noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8455468843833525066.post-22027620839200154912014-07-11T17:38:33.915-04:002014-07-11T17:38:33.915-04:00@foveros , I'm sure Coursera has records of al...@foveros , I'm sure Coursera has records of all the email Dehaye sent. The email said the forums would be down from Fri-Sunday, turned out longer, of course. That email also said to goto a twitter feed, which turns out has been quite active, although very unsettling.<br /><br />Wish coursera would comment, but not holding my breath. Also wish UZH would issue a corrrect statement, because shutting down the forums on purpose would not help raise student engagement or communication as UZH suggested.Apostolos K. ("AK")https://www.blogger.com/profile/02198465120131968928noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8455468843833525066.post-15014213554801963072014-07-11T15:17:15.632-04:002014-07-11T15:17:15.632-04:00That is a good question! I looked through my emai...That is a good question! I looked through my email history (just in case the Spam filter caught the coursera email), but I did not find anything from coursera or Dehaye on this topic. Who knows? Maybe it was only sent to a select amount of students.<br /><br /><br />I wonder if others took the route you did and quit coursera as well. I think their investors will most likely not like this ;-)Apostolos K. ("AK")https://www.blogger.com/profile/02198465120131968928noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8455468843833525066.post-18379977569915551462014-07-11T15:13:38.219-04:002014-07-11T15:13:38.219-04:00Kate you make some good points!
As far as short &...Kate you make some good points!<br /><br />As far as short "courses" go, that didn't really seem all that strange to me. A few years ago there was a MOOC MOOC (called MOOCMOOC) offered by the fine folks at Hybrid Pedagogy (good web journal/blog to follow!) Their "MOOC" was 1 week long and was quite intensive! I followed on the periphery because it seemed to go a million miles an hour. A 3 week (collaborative) exploration on #massiveteaching seemed "normal" to me after my work on Open2Study and that MOOCMOOC.<br /><br />FutureLearn has some interesting work out there (this is me if you are on FL as well: https://www.futurelearn.com/profiles/9998 ); as well as Open2Study. The thing I like about O2S is that the course is bite sized, and the fact that the courses repeat 12 times a year (I think), so that if you miss one session, you don't have to wait long to get on the ride again. The problem is the potential lack of community. I've seen courses on my O2S roster that are dead in the forums (or any other way to communicate with fellow learners). They could benefit from a little different instructional design ("better" is relative IMHO), but there are good points. PD is an interesting application of MOOCs, especially for lifelong learning.<br /><br /><br /><br />As far as Dehaye goes, yes, a lot has been written with very little information directly from him. Maybe he is saving it for his autobiography, who knows? Either way, I have a feeling that this will follow him around in his career. There is a Greek saying that I think applies here:" You didn't know?!? Why didn't you ask?" I think that there are quite a few people new to MOOCs out there that want to create MOOCs for a variety of reasons, but they never come to the established MOOC community (beyond coursera et al.), or their community of instructional designers to get help to run their MOOC (and increase chances of having a more successful MOOC, however success might be measured). If it does turn out that this was an #FOEMOOC type of meltdown, then I think future profs will need to think hard about the development of their MOOCs :)Apostolos K. ("AK")https://www.blogger.com/profile/02198465120131968928noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8455468843833525066.post-11598323893180321772014-07-11T06:27:19.467-04:002014-07-11T06:27:19.467-04:00This is really informative, thank you. Something t...This is really informative, thank you. Something that's bothered me all along is the possibility that while Paul-Olivier Dehaye is not able to answer questions (and I think it's quite plausible that U Zurich will have required him not to) we have overinterpreted some of the other things he seemed to have said online. The consequence of this is to see events as deliberate and planned in advance.<br /><br /><br />But this doesn't work for me, because of the serious lack of detail in the way the course presented itself to potential enrolees. What drew people to such a short course, really? That's something I'd like to understand more about. <br /><br /><br />It's especially relevant, I think, given that both FutureLearn and Open2Study are moving away from semester-length courses to more bite sized learning chunks. Will this reveal itself to be part of a broader pivot to professional development across the xMOOC platforms, do you think?Apostolos K. ("AK")https://www.blogger.com/profile/02198465120131968928noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8455468843833525066.post-50501973261406270942014-07-10T17:22:02.767-04:002014-07-10T17:22:02.767-04:00I was a former student in that class. I received e...I was a former student in that class. I received email looking like official Coursera from Dr Dehaye telling me one day in advance that he was going to shut down the discussion forum. I did not know Dehaye other than I was in the course. I sent a report to Coursera security, as I thought it was a prank or system security problem. Coursera confirmed they got my report. Now I wonder if some of the class were selected to get the email and others didn't<br /><br /> The email said the reason to stop the discussion forum was because everyone was so over-involved...this contradicts what UZH stated that the goal was to facilitate communication! Before the course opened Dehaye discussed a plan on elearnspace blog to use that Course course as a precursor to having folks work on open-source edX projects. <br /><br />'m not convinced that the "experiment" was not a guise to use Coursera to attract 1000's and then find a way to continue working with a select few on an entirely different project. See the url where I found Dehaye's comments.<br /><br />http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/2014/05/06/multiple-pathways-blending-xmoocs-cmoocs/#comment-91231<br /><br />I quit Coursrsa and that class. Just too weird.Apostolos K. ("AK")https://www.blogger.com/profile/02198465120131968928noreply@blogger.com